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2 Bolt Block
Hello, I am new to this forum but been a mechanic all my life.
I am currently doing a frame off restore on a 1974 corvette that was my fathers. He passed away two years ago and I inherited the car. He was going to do this when he retired so I am fulfilling his wishes. The car will pretty much be driven only to club meetings or shows so here is my questions.
When I got the motor apart he apparently had some work done to it as it is only a 2 bolt block and not the original one. It is currently .030 bore. It did have a nice B&M tranny though. So back to the question. I plan to build a 383 stroker, already have a nice set of AFR 210 eliminator heads complete and ready to go.
Should I get a new 4 bolt block and start fresh there or should I have splayed caps installed and go .040 on the bore. I am on a tight budget but the motor needs to be built right. The plan is to have about 500hp and a good shot of nitrous with it.
What direction should I go on the block? The frame is heading to powder coat next week.
Thanks in advance
Jim
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Being a Ford guy, I'm used to putting splayed caps on everything...Never had a bit of trouble with them.
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O.K. I am awake and thinking a bit clearer today, so I will pull my head out of the gutter and try and answer this correctly. 500 horse on a 2 bolt chevy is pushing it, then after you put the spray factor in its over the top as far as the 2 bolt main could handle. I would not say it wont handle it, I am saying you will be taking a big chance. Go with either having the block splayed or get another 4 bolt main core and build it. I would not run a stock cast crank under tose conditions either, that is probably in that block too.
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Oh sorry I wasn't very clear. I am definitely going to go 4 bolt but what I was asking was that since I have the two bolt block already should I go ahead and just install splayed 4 bolt caps and go 040 on the bore. I plan on using a Lunati balances rotating system. It will be built with all the strength needed but I was just wondering about if I should waste my time with this block or just find a 4 bolt core to use. I have heard that ading splayed four bolt caps to a 2 bolt block will be stronger than a standard 4 bolt block. Is that true? And is it ok to go the 040 on the bore?
Thanks
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My brother did his own splaying job on his 2 bolt block. I am not sure what he paid for the kit I will look that up and post it here. That would be a safe route to travel for sure, the kit does claim they are stronger then a stock 4 bolt cap.. 90.00 a set but they need machined after install, but you are gonna have the block there anyway. here is eagles quote,
Bulletproof your engine's bottom-end with Eagle Specialties.
These Eagle billet steel main caps offer superb strength at a reasonable cost. Eagle main bearing caps improve performance and reliability by eliminating main cap walk and reducing main bearing bore distortion. These main caps are designed to fit Chevy 2-bolt blocks with machine work. Eagle main caps include a drill bushing, 6 bolts, and 3 main caps. Please note--the engine block must be drilled for 4-bolt conversion and line bored after main cap installation.
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Did you steal my car?
Hey Jimmyz, that looks just like my '74 coupe. Same condition too. Body off on a dolly. If the block is in good shape go ahead and splay the caps. Not a problem, but probably an added expense. In the SW Ohio area there are still a good number of 4 bolt blocks available. I built a 500 hp 383 this winter for my C3. Just buy a forged rotating assembly and don't assume it is balanced. Have it balanced at a local quality speed shop. The factories do sometime make mistakes. Your local guy will more than likely catch them. Good luck.
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This is from the school of hard knocks. Don't go with the factory 4-bolt main caps. Buy quality aftermarket main caps and have block machined. As for the .040 overbore, have the block honed by a machine shop that has the diamond hone setup. They make a great finish on the bores. Also, have them use a honing plate.
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Hey jimmyz, I forgot this earlier. I am running AFR 195 eliminators on the 383. If all you are doing is building a great running street car AFR reccomends the 195s.
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A 2 bolt can be better than a 4 bolt if the caps are splayed. The heads are on the outer edge of not to great on the street , I think.
A budget engine would be the engine stroke to 383....Heads might be a little big for street ,IMO, but if you got them slap them on. At the stage its at you might do better concentrating on the frame and the suspension.
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Thanks all, Yes I have the heads already. They were such a smokin deal that I couldn't pass them up, never been mounted, in the box fully ready to go. I have seen quite a few 383 builds with the 210 head that still run pump gas if done right. I know that in order to get these heads to flow as designed I will probably need to go solid roller cam.
Jim
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If you are going just run the car just on street I would not waste the money go to four bolt setup...